TAYLOR RIVER AT TAYLOR PARK, CO.
USGS 09107000 · Colorado · reports discharge (live), gauge height, water temperature, specific conductance
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USGS 09107000 · Colorado · reports discharge (live), gauge height, water temperature, specific conductance
What the agencies suggest
During periods of high water, fish move towards the banks to find calmer water and lower velocitiesPennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission
Wading and boating should be avoided if waters are running high and muddy and the streambed is not visiblePennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission
If stream conditions are not favorable, consider fishing at a lakePennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission
General guidance from the readings and the published lines named above, not a fishing forecast. Local rules and closures come first.
Reading Nov 5, 6:00 PM MST · provisional USGS data
Much above normal for Nov 5 Steady · 24 h Below NWS action stage
Discharge, last 7 days: 169 readings from Oct 29, 7:00 PM MDT to Nov 5, 6:00 PM MST; ranging 51.8 to 124 ft³/s; latest 63 ft³/s; shaded band: typical range (25th–75th percentile) for each date.
USGS provisional data may be revised. Source: USGS instantaneous values.
| Time | Discharge (ft³/s) | Gauge height (ft) | Water temp (°F) | Normal, 25th–75th (ft³/s) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Nov 5, 6:00 PM MST | 63 | 1.45 | – | 43–54 |
| Nov 5, 5:00 PM MST | 63 | 1.45 | – | 43–54 |
| Nov 5, 4:00 PM MST | 61.3 | 1.44 | – | 43–54 |
| Nov 5, 3:00 PM MST | 59.6 | 1.43 | – | 43–54 |
| Nov 5, 2:00 PM MST | 57.9 | 1.42 | – | 43–54 |
| Nov 5, 1:00 PM MST | 59.6 | 1.43 | – | 43–54 |
| Nov 5, 12:00 PM MST | 63 | 1.45 | – | 43–54 |
| Nov 5, 11:00 AM MST | 70.2 | 1.49 | – | 43–54 |
| Nov 5, 10:00 AM MST | 61.3 | 1.44 | – | 43–54 |
| Nov 5, 9:00 AM MST | 61.3 | 1.44 | – | 43–54 |
| Nov 5, 8:00 AM MST | 64.8 | 1.46 | – | 43–54 |
| Nov 5, 7:00 AM MST | 66.6 | 1.47 | – | 43–54 |
| Nov 5, 6:00 AM MST | 68.4 | 1.48 | – | 43–54 |
| Nov 5, 5:00 AM MST | 68.4 | 1.48 | – | 43–54 |
| Nov 5, 4:00 AM MST | 73.9 | 1.51 | – | 43–54 |
| Nov 5, 3:00 AM MST | 75.8 | 1.52 | – | 43–54 |
| Nov 5, 2:00 AM MST | 77.8 | 1.53 | – | 43–54 |
| Nov 5, 1:00 AM MST | 81.7 | 1.55 | – | 43–54 |
| Nov 5, 12:00 AM MST | 83.7 | 1.56 | – | 43–54 |
| Nov 4, 11:00 PM MST | 83.7 | 1.56 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 10:00 PM MST | 81.7 | 1.55 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 9:00 PM MST | 79.7 | 1.54 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 8:00 PM MST | 70.2 | 1.49 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 7:00 PM MST | 64.8 | 1.46 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 6:00 PM MST | 59.6 | 1.43 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 5:00 PM MST | 56.3 | 1.41 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 4:00 PM MST | 54.7 | 1.4 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 3:00 PM MST | 56.3 | 1.41 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 2:00 PM MST | 56.3 | 1.41 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 1:00 PM MST | 56.3 | 1.41 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 12:00 PM MST | 57.9 | 1.42 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 11:00 AM MST | 57.9 | 1.42 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 10:00 AM MST | 59.6 | 1.43 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 9:00 AM MST | 61.3 | 1.44 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 8:00 AM MST | 63 | 1.45 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 7:00 AM MST | 64.8 | 1.46 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 6:00 AM MST | 64.8 | 1.46 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 5:00 AM MST | 66.6 | 1.47 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 4:00 AM MST | 66.6 | 1.47 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 3:00 AM MST | 66.6 | 1.47 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 2:00 AM MST | 68.4 | 1.48 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 1:00 AM MST | 68.4 | 1.48 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 4, 12:00 AM MST | 68.4 | 1.48 | – | 45–56 |
| Nov 3, 11:00 PM MST | 68.4 | 1.48 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 10:00 PM MST | 68.4 | 1.48 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 9:00 PM MST | 68.4 | 1.48 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 8:00 PM MST | 68.4 | 1.48 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 7:00 PM MST | 68.4 | 1.48 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 6:00 PM MST | 68.4 | 1.48 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 5:00 PM MST | 66.6 | 1.47 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 4:00 PM MST | 66.6 | 1.47 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 3:00 PM MST | 68.4 | 1.48 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 2:00 PM MST | 68.4 | 1.48 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 1:00 PM MST | 68.4 | 1.48 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 12:00 PM MST | 70.2 | 1.49 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 11:00 AM MST | 70.2 | 1.49 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 10:00 AM MST | 70.2 | 1.49 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 9:00 AM MST | 72 | 1.5 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 8:00 AM MST | 73.9 | 1.51 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 7:00 AM MST | 73.9 | 1.51 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 6:00 AM MST | 75.8 | 1.52 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 5:00 AM MST | 75.8 | 1.52 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 4:00 AM MST | 77.8 | 1.53 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 3:00 AM MST | 79.7 | 1.54 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 2:00 AM MST | 81.7 | 1.55 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 1:00 AM MST | 81.7 | 1.55 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 3, 12:00 AM MST | 83.7 | 1.56 | – | 45–55 |
| Nov 2, 11:00 PM MST | 85.7 | 1.57 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 10:00 PM MST | 85.7 | 1.57 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 9:00 PM MST | 85.7 | 1.57 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 8:00 PM MST | 85.7 | 1.57 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 7:00 PM MST | 87.8 | 1.58 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 6:00 PM MST | 87.8 | 1.58 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 5:00 PM MST | 89.9 | 1.59 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 4:00 PM MST | 89.9 | 1.59 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 3:00 PM MST | 92 | 1.6 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 2:00 PM MST | 94.2 | 1.61 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 1:00 PM MST | 96.3 | 1.62 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 12:00 PM MST | 98.5 | 1.63 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 11:00 AM MST | 101 | 1.64 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 10:00 AM MST | 105 | 1.66 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 9:00 AM MST | 108 | 1.67 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 8:00 AM MST | 112 | 1.69 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 7:00 AM MST | 115 | 1.7 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 6:00 AM MST | 119 | 1.72 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 5:00 AM MST | 119 | 1.72 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 4:00 AM MST | 121 | 1.73 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 3:00 AM MST | 121 | 1.73 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 2:00 AM MST | 124 | 1.74 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 1:00 AM MST | 124 | 1.74 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 2, 12:00 AM MST | 124 | 1.74 | – | 44–56 |
| Nov 1, 11:00 PM MST | 121 | 1.73 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 10:00 PM MST | 115 | 1.7 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 9:00 PM MST | 105 | 1.66 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 8:00 PM MST | 98.5 | 1.63 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 7:00 PM MST | 92 | 1.6 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 6:00 PM MST | 85.7 | 1.57 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 5:00 PM MST | 77.8 | 1.53 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 4:00 PM MST | 73.9 | 1.51 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 3:00 PM MST | 66.6 | 1.47 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 2:00 PM MST | 63 | 1.45 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 1:00 PM MST | 61.3 | 1.44 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 12:00 PM MST | 59.6 | 1.43 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 11:00 AM MST | 59.6 | 1.43 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 10:00 AM MST | 59.6 | 1.43 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 9:00 AM MST | 59.6 | 1.43 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 8:00 AM MST | 59.6 | 1.43 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 7:00 AM MST | 57.9 | 1.42 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 6:00 AM MST | 57.9 | 1.42 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 5:00 AM MST | 57.9 | 1.42 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 4:00 AM MST | 57.9 | 1.42 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 3:00 AM MST | 57.9 | 1.42 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 2:00 AM MST | 57.9 | 1.42 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 1:00 AM MST | 57.9 | 1.42 | – | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 1:00 AM MDT | 57.9 | 1.42 | 38.7 | 43–57 |
| Nov 1, 12:00 AM MDT | 57.9 | 1.42 | 39 | 43–57 |
| Oct 31, 11:00 PM MDT | 57.9 | 1.42 | 39.4 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 10:00 PM MDT | 59.6 | 1.43 | 40.1 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 9:00 PM MDT | 59.6 | 1.43 | 40.8 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 8:00 PM MDT | 59.6 | 1.43 | 41.5 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 7:00 PM MDT | 59.6 | 1.43 | 42.6 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 6:00 PM MDT | 59.6 | 1.43 | 44.4 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 5:00 PM MDT | 59.6 | 1.43 | 45.9 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 4:00 PM MDT | 59.6 | 1.43 | 46.9 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 3:00 PM MDT | 57.9 | 1.42 | 47.5 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 2:00 PM MDT | 59.6 | 1.43 | 46.9 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 1:00 PM MDT | 57.9 | 1.42 | 45.1 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 12:00 PM MDT | 57.9 | 1.42 | 43 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 11:00 AM MDT | 57.9 | 1.42 | 40.6 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 10:00 AM MDT | 57.9 | 1.42 | 39 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 9:00 AM MDT | 57.9 | 1.42 | 38.3 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 8:00 AM MDT | 57.9 | 1.42 | 38.5 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 7:00 AM MDT | 57.9 | 1.42 | 38.7 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 6:00 AM MDT | 57.9 | 1.42 | 38.8 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 5:00 AM MDT | 56.3 | 1.41 | 38.8 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 4:00 AM MDT | 56.3 | 1.41 | 39 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 3:00 AM MDT | 56.3 | 1.41 | 39 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 2:00 AM MDT | 54.7 | 1.4 | 39.2 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 1:00 AM MDT | 56.3 | 1.41 | 39.4 | 44–57 |
| Oct 31, 12:00 AM MDT | 54.7 | 1.4 | 39.7 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 11:00 PM MDT | 54.7 | 1.4 | 39.9 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 10:00 PM MDT | 54.7 | 1.4 | 40.5 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 9:00 PM MDT | 53.2 | 1.39 | 41.2 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 8:00 PM MDT | 53.2 | 1.39 | 41.9 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 7:00 PM MDT | 51.8 | 1.38 | 42.6 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 6:00 PM MDT | 53.2 | 1.39 | 43.5 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 5:00 PM MDT | 51.8 | 1.38 | 44.1 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 4:00 PM MDT | 51.8 | 1.38 | 44.4 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 3:00 PM MDT | 51.8 | 1.38 | 44.4 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 2:00 PM MDT | 53.2 | 1.39 | 43.3 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 1:00 PM MDT | 53.2 | 1.39 | 41.5 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 12:00 PM MDT | 53.2 | 1.39 | 39 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 11:00 AM MDT | 54.7 | 1.4 | 36.5 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 10:00 AM MDT | 54.7 | 1.4 | 34.7 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 9:00 AM MDT | 56.3 | 1.41 | 34 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 8:00 AM MDT | 56.3 | 1.41 | 34 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 7:00 AM MDT | 57.9 | 1.42 | 34.3 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 6:00 AM MDT | 57.9 | 1.42 | 34.7 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 5:00 AM MDT | 57.9 | 1.42 | 35.4 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 4:00 AM MDT | 57.9 | 1.42 | 35.8 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 3:00 AM MDT | 57.9 | 1.42 | 36.3 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 2:00 AM MDT | 57.9 | 1.42 | 36.9 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 1:00 AM MDT | 57.9 | 1.42 | 37.4 | 44–57 |
| Oct 30, 12:00 AM MDT | 57.9 | 1.42 | 37.9 | 44–57 |
| Oct 29, 11:00 PM MDT | 57.9 | 1.42 | 38.7 | 42–60 |
| Oct 29, 10:00 PM MDT | 56.3 | 1.41 | 39.2 | 42–60 |
| Oct 29, 9:00 PM MDT | 53.2 | 1.39 | 39.9 | 42–60 |
| Oct 29, 8:00 PM MDT | 53.2 | 1.39 | 40.6 | 42–60 |
| Oct 29, 7:00 PM MDT | 51.8 | 1.38 | 41.7 | 42–60 |
Water temperature, last 7 days: 55 readings from Oct 29, 7:00 PM MDT to Nov 1, 1:00 AM MDT; ranging 34 to 47.5 °F; latest 38.7 °F.
USGS provisional data may be revised. Source: USGS instantaneous values.
| Time | Water temperature (°F) |
|---|---|
| Nov 1, 1:00 AM MDT | 38.7 |
| Nov 1, 12:00 AM MDT | 39 |
| Oct 31, 11:00 PM MDT | 39.4 |
| Oct 31, 10:00 PM MDT | 40.1 |
| Oct 31, 9:00 PM MDT | 40.8 |
| Oct 31, 8:00 PM MDT | 41.5 |
| Oct 31, 7:00 PM MDT | 42.6 |
| Oct 31, 6:00 PM MDT | 44.4 |
| Oct 31, 5:00 PM MDT | 45.9 |
| Oct 31, 4:00 PM MDT | 46.9 |
| Oct 31, 3:00 PM MDT | 47.5 |
| Oct 31, 2:00 PM MDT | 46.9 |
| Oct 31, 1:00 PM MDT | 45.1 |
| Oct 31, 12:00 PM MDT | 43 |
| Oct 31, 11:00 AM MDT | 40.6 |
| Oct 31, 10:00 AM MDT | 39 |
| Oct 31, 9:00 AM MDT | 38.3 |
| Oct 31, 8:00 AM MDT | 38.5 |
| Oct 31, 7:00 AM MDT | 38.7 |
| Oct 31, 6:00 AM MDT | 38.8 |
| Oct 31, 5:00 AM MDT | 38.8 |
| Oct 31, 4:00 AM MDT | 39 |
| Oct 31, 3:00 AM MDT | 39 |
| Oct 31, 2:00 AM MDT | 39.2 |
| Oct 31, 1:00 AM MDT | 39.4 |
| Oct 31, 12:00 AM MDT | 39.7 |
| Oct 30, 11:00 PM MDT | 39.9 |
| Oct 30, 10:00 PM MDT | 40.5 |
| Oct 30, 9:00 PM MDT | 41.2 |
| Oct 30, 8:00 PM MDT | 41.9 |
| Oct 30, 7:00 PM MDT | 42.6 |
| Oct 30, 6:00 PM MDT | 43.5 |
| Oct 30, 5:00 PM MDT | 44.1 |
| Oct 30, 4:00 PM MDT | 44.4 |
| Oct 30, 3:00 PM MDT | 44.4 |
| Oct 30, 2:00 PM MDT | 43.3 |
| Oct 30, 1:00 PM MDT | 41.5 |
| Oct 30, 12:00 PM MDT | 39 |
| Oct 30, 11:00 AM MDT | 36.5 |
| Oct 30, 10:00 AM MDT | 34.7 |
| Oct 30, 9:00 AM MDT | 34 |
| Oct 30, 8:00 AM MDT | 34 |
| Oct 30, 7:00 AM MDT | 34.3 |
| Oct 30, 6:00 AM MDT | 34.7 |
| Oct 30, 5:00 AM MDT | 35.4 |
| Oct 30, 4:00 AM MDT | 35.8 |
| Oct 30, 3:00 AM MDT | 36.3 |
| Oct 30, 2:00 AM MDT | 36.9 |
| Oct 30, 1:00 AM MDT | 37.4 |
| Oct 30, 12:00 AM MDT | 37.9 |
| Oct 29, 11:00 PM MDT | 38.7 |
| Oct 29, 10:00 PM MDT | 39.2 |
| Oct 29, 9:00 PM MDT | 39.9 |
| Oct 29, 8:00 PM MDT | 40.6 |
| Oct 29, 7:00 PM MDT | 41.7 |
Map of USGS gauge 09107000 and the river around it
Where TAYLOR RIVER AT TAYLOR PARK, CO. sits, with 3 other gauges on the same river and our water's map point.
No current water-temperature reading at this gauge, so no temperature guidance is given. Take a stream thermometer: the trout lines Colorado Parks and Wildlife uses are 71°F.
Normal for Nov 5: 43–54 ft³/s (middle half of 39 years of record). Now: 63 ft³/s, much above normal.
Much above normal for this date. 63 ft³/s is above the 90th percentile of daily mean flow for Nov 5 at this gauge over 39 years of record (1988–2026): 10th 37, 25th 43, median 50, 75th 54, 90th 60 ft³/s.
Daily means on record for Nov 5: lowest 32 ft³/s, highest 67.4 ft³/s.
Classes as USGS labels them (hyswap: flow categories (WDFN_stats schema) (U.S. Geological Survey) ); percentiles from the USGS daily statistics (U.S. Geological Survey) (approved daily means; the reading is provisional and instantaneous).
Steady over 24 hours (+5.7% discharge). Rising or falling means a change of more than 10% in discharge (or 0.2 ft of gauge height) over 24 hours; our rule of thumb, not a USGS class.
This gauge is on the same river as our page for Taylor River, but no agency page we read lists its species.
Below NWS action stage. The National Weather Service reports this gauge below its action stage. That is not a statement that wading is safe.
Flood categories: action stage, minor, moderate and major flooding (National Weather Service)Flow far above normal. Above the 90th percentile of daily mean flow for this date (USGS class “much above normal”), from 39 years of record. Expect higher, faster water than usual for the season.
hyswap: flow categories (WDFN_stats schema) (U.S. Geological Survey) Statistics documentation (percentiles of daily mean discharge) (U.S. Geological Survey)Turn Around Don't Drown. “A mere 6 inches of fast-moving flood water can knock over an adult.” No flow number makes a crossing safe; if in doubt, stay out.
Turn Around Don't Drown (National Weather Service)Specific conductance 135 µS/cm at Nov 1, 1:00 AM MDT; 7-day range 130–137 µS/cm; more than a day old
Dissolved ions: Specific conductance rises with the ions dissolved in the water. No fishing threshold is published for it; compare with this gauge's own recent readings.
Conductivity (Electrical Conductance) and Water (U.S. Geological Survey)Guidance from the readings above and the published thresholds named with each line; not a fishing forecast, a safety guarantee or a statement about access. Local rules and closures come first.
Below NWS action stage. The National Weather Service reports this gauge below its action stage. That is not a statement that wading is safe.
NWS observed 1.45 ft stage, 63 ft³/s at Nov 5, 6:00 PM MST (NWS gauge TRAC2; its stage datum can differ from the USGS gauge height).
NWS river forecast forecast issued Nov 5, 9:06 AM MST. Highest point: 1.48 ft, 68 ft³/s on Nov 5, 6:00 AM MST (Below NWS action stage).
| Day | Stage | Flow |
|---|---|---|
| Thu, Nov 5 | 1.48 ft | 68 ft³/s |
| Fri, Nov 6 | 1.47 ft | 67 ft³/s |
| Sat, Nov 7 | 1.45 ft | 63 ft³/s |
| Sun, Nov 8 | 1.48 ft | 68 ft³/s |
| Mon, Nov 9 | 1.47 ft | 67 ft³/s |
| Tue, Nov 10 | 1.44 ft | 62 ft³/s |
| Wed, Nov 11 | 1.41 ft | 57 ft³/s |
| Thu, Nov 12 | 1.39 ft | 53 ft³/s |
Open the NWS gauge page · What the categories mean (National Weather Service)
Checked Nov 5, 6:47 PM MST; readings refresh at most every 15 minutes and statistics daily. Provisional USGS data can be revised. Conditions change: re-check before you go. This is general guidance, not a fishing forecast, a safety guarantee or a statement about access.